KoN vs US funwar

Hey all, I have been invited US for funwar, there is information what i suggest them... lets see what they say

Date: 20 of July 2011
Time: 18GMT
Place: }KoN{-Clan Server
Rules:
Camping is not allowed.
Exit camping is not allowed.
Spawn camping is NOT allowed
Speak only English
Cheating and bugging will lead to ban
Spawn camping if VIP is at spawn is allowed

UAC3 we will use if all agree, because some people can have bigger lag.

Eventhough i'm too old to play any wars, still i would like to take a part in this event

I would like to join if it was possible ......

«|US|»DULOKS*AC war manager said:


Since few of players in your clan are caught as hackers i am sorry but we wll have to play on our server. Ping is not an issue because ping diffrence is only 5.
Date Time:20.07.2011 18:00 GMT
Server: USA SWAT TEAM
Maps: 2 maps (third if its a tie). 1.Brewer County Corthouse, 2. Foodwall Restaurant. You chose third map
Players: 6+1 in view
Rules: NO camping (only if vip arrested/tazed/naded and you can see him). NO spawn killing/nadeing. Window shooting is alowed.
If all goes well we can play a rematch on your server. I hope you dont take this personaly, and in this way we can build a trust between our clans so we dont need to have these kind of trust problems in the future.


What shall we do?a?

well i dont mind playing on their server,

but still 6 vs 6 is too much .. US clan is an old clan and they have many good players.. i think 4vs4 or 5vs5 max is more than enough ..

Next strange clan from 1.0 Why game isnt with uac3 ? Why they picked 2 maps and KoN will be choose only 1 ? WTF it is ? Camp not allowed in war Seriously playing wars against such a freak clans is waste time. Clans like fab , us, uf etc call yourself pro but they are not even avarage Why they are afraid play with spawn and camp allowed simple cause their team work is poor and they are too bad shooters to kill campers. When someone play better than them that mean cheater If they not respect us we dont need lick their balls. Respect work in both side. Anyway I have now a lot of work and I can play wars only in sundays

Horse wrote:Next strange clan from 1.0 Why game isnt with uac3 ? Why they picked 2 maps and KoN will be choose only 1 ? WTF it is ? Camp not allowed in war Seriously playing wars against such a freak clans is waste time. Clans like fab , us, uf etc call yourself pro but they are not even avarage Why they are afraid play with spawn and camp allowed simple cause their team work is poor and they are too bad shooters to kill campers. When someone play better than them that mean cheater If they not respect us we dont need lick their balls. Respect work in both side. Anyway I have now a lot of work and I can play wars only in sundays

Agreed, bullshit rules. ask for change rules if not, then tell them they are pussies
and i can't play much till late august since im going on holiday

I agree with Horse, I hate these stupid rules in public, but in the wars is really insane,
a good war is with UAC3 on, and have fun, stop, this way there will be no complains, protests or smth.

Mhmhm .... I do understand their point about spawn - As much as i like VIP, I must admit that i do not like spawnkilling in that mode, simply because i find it to be a tactic that deprives the victim team of any kind of fun in the game what so ever - disregarding how efficient the tactic may be. i believe in fair play for both teams, not a shooting gallery for one team where the other team might as well turn their back on their PC for the 10 minutes of the round. Especially in Brewer Courthouse due to the numerous dark places and odd angles with good cover, making the spawning team pretty much sitting ducks. Thus I am surprised (or not really) that that they obviusly against camp in all possible aspects of it - as a result that gonna bring thousand complaints towards us and actually will destroy all possible fun we might have. However, i do agree with Horse, Diesel and Capitano - they make a good point.

Good luck team. I unfortunately at work :{

well lol i am usually free to play and i would like to take place anyway add me if you can



About camp i think this is a good thing to be allowed but needs also good players to get versus players who camp but in spawn camping allowed i dont think this will be still a fun war then hehehehe

The link below shows you how they acccep/disagree with our suggestion.

Here u can see US suggestion..

1 If you wanna check no recoil u need record from view not from cam
2 If you shot near door, berrel etc it seem like no recoil
3 Lack of movement is only visible in view.
4 I dont have clue how to bypass uac3 but I bet uac still took screen shots where is visible if someone use wh or radar. Smac cant eliminete that cheat
5 Smac isnt trustfull even in 1.1 World Mafia clan do not using it even if creator of this program is member their clan. If Im not wrong smac ban only when you taze aimboter and he move around. Well if I taze aimboter I can either see it and just ban manual. With no recoil it was so many mistakes that I even won't repeat myself again
6 UAC3 was or even still is official anty cheater. Either it was used in ESL professional league with sponsors
7 Who the fu.. is US ? What they mean on swat scen ? I never meet them in any tournament. Seem they are artists who only understood own art.

Hey guys and girls, im Jack from US,
I just read all what u said and I wanna clarify some points.
We never use to camp, and as you all should know, in all FPS game camp is not allowed, because only noobs who dont have enough reflex use to camp(dont misunderstand I am not speaking about Kon are noob, but campers used to be noob). I play battlefield(the last one) too and I can tell u even snipers dont camp. There is no skill when u r camping, just waiting someone comes in your aim a find a good spot, cmon everyone can do that.
And about spawn kill, I didnt really get if you like spawn kill or not but I can tell you one thing, you want a 5 vs 5 and I can kill 5 guys when they spawn, alone. So spaw kill must not be allowed.
Now horse u are asking who is US, well, it is just one of the founder clan of swat 4 1.0. So maybe you should just bring down of your pedestal.

ok that all I wanted to say, now I hope you ll find an agreement with our war manager.

Peace and take care

Jack

Closed mind Dont make me laugh about lack of skills clans who allow camping. They are better in rushing , camping , aiming and tactic cause you play just one big mess. Just lets play war with everything allowed if you are better simple you will own us without any problem.

Well, I am sorry but I dont find any fun by waiting someone and shootiing when I am camping. I prefer to die in front of someone because he has more reflex than I have. I dont think you ll find good wars if u allow camping when I say good, I mean skilled. Anyway the decision of this war is not mine, I just wanted to share my point of view.

Peace

Uchh.. thats became so funny.. KoN is on the fire

Its a game.. and other clans can't accept challege,, thats really sick.. We are playing, not a making money.. -.- just try to play and thats it..

I guess 1.0 always will be away from good skills.. :/

hmm, how to play - it's a personal choice of each. when ppl not allow smth like spawn i trying follow the rules, sometimes. But if ppl dont allow to do something and after this call me sux, im getting a bit angry. -_-
95% players 1.0 dunno what mean teamwork, dunno how trow nades, dunno spawns and after this accusing other in cheating, telling that not alowed camp/spawn/windowshotz - its choice for superpro, and ppl who play with camping and spawning - noobs.
Its kinda fun, cuz i can tell u 1 simple thing: if u pro, u can make 100% clear spawnkill. Same with camping, if camper noob he just cant kill anyone. What ever, as told horse teamz who allow camp much better in aimin, reflexes and other stuff than u. If u will camp anywhere true pros own u without problemz. As for me its np to kill camper in all positions in this game, cuz i know 98.9% of this campplaces, mb not by 1st try but its very easy anyway.
Im absolutely sure that if il ask some random average guy from 1.1 he own all in 1.0 All cuz he trained to play vs campers and hard enemys, not like 1.0 pussyes.
Wanna check true my word or not, just play vs me, and your mind about yourself as pro, will crash like card house.
learn 1.1 with all alowed rules =P example without spawn kill
with spawn kill

SkandalisT wrote:Wanna check true my word or not, just play vs me, and your mind about yourself as pro, will crash like card house. learn 1.1 with all alowed rules =P example without spawn kill

Well I never played with you, so I accept your invitation, I ll try to catch you in Kon server I tryed to find u in gametracker but you are not playing too much, maybe it is gonna be hard to play together.lol which nickname are u using? SkandalisT?

Now I m speaking to all Kon, dont take wrong what I said, maybe sometimes I speak a bit rude but if you know me, you ll understand that I m not rude at all, I respect your clan since I dont know u, and I dont forget it is just a game and there is no reason to have a headache about it. I was just a bit pissed when I saw horse's post when he said all clan like UF, US and FAb sucks and it is a waste of time to play with them. Well it is just the most popular clans in vip mode, anyway all can speak w/o their brain even me .
We just used to play with different game play, you have your idea of it and we ve ours, we can be not agree about some rules, there is no reason to be ennemy

To quara, I am sorry for you because u try hard to make many wars for your clan, and you seems really engaged for putting your clan at the top, that is nice, but u just hurt fuc*ing walls lol, it is just we hate playing against campers, again, nothing against you personnally, it is just more than 4 years of wars w/o camp, and I can assure you we have a good teamplay even if we dont use to camp.

I really hope we will keep the respect in the both side, because it is the most important.

Have fun and take care

^ +1 Man, good words, we should start like this.
Im still not so usual player in 1.0, i play only when elie spam me in xfire "biatch, gay go play etc" U couldnt find me on gametraker or somewhere else cuz i dont use this stuff, all ppl wich i need know how i play, statistic no need for me, i know it myself. But anyway cu in game, u can rcognize me by any stupid nick usualy on servers KoN or KL or Suspect haven.

In my opinion Funwar can be wather we want.. our rulez should be accepted.. But in war.. rulez must be accepted by both sides.... that everyone agree... -.-
I never didnt saw that someone camping so long.. its just a name for tactic, when u saw in cam enemy is caming, so u just wait for few sec, and go again.. lol.. Nobody doesnt sit in the corner for whole map.. -.- thats boring.

Well maybe we dont have the same signification of camping, cuz in war our rule is u can wait 5 sec, anyway, we used to play against campers even if it wasnt in war rules(when I say camper I mean the dude who is hiding under mainway stairs in courthouse and kill all with his ak47), and it f us up, but maybe you are not camping like I think, maybe i am wrong. But the last thing I wanna say is:
If your clan is new, and you wanna have some wars against 1.0 clan, why u cant begin by follow our old clan rules? like I am pretty sure we can have fun with no camp more than 5 sec except ofc if u are on fire or vip is arested..blablabla..blablabla , I dont understand why u were agree to cut the camp at the begining of your post in our forum and now u changed your mind? Just begin by follow our rules, we can have some wars like that in both server, and maybe after that impose your own style !! . Because really, for the first war against a new clan, we wont begin with a camp war .
Ok dont take it like an advice but just a thought, you are the leader, you take your own decision

(when I say camper I mean the dude who is hiding under mainway stairs in courthouse and kill all with his ak47)

1) U mean: when i say camper, I mean the dude, who is hiding under mainway stairs in courthouse and die each time when some one clever walking around with ak47?
2) Idc how to play, i can play with not alowed camp, but only if opposite teammembers will not cry, when il start to kill from the corner/window or barricade. Just i hate when ppl cry, when i see guy far away from me, and after this sit down and kill him. Its not my problem if they rush like a rams in my aim. Ofc not... its my problem, cuz need try not to spent to much ammo to kill em
3) I neva saw before that some team chose the rules for match herself. Even if its a old team, playing vs newbies. especially if both teams are not new(how long team exist doesnt matter mainly if both teams have skillz and know game). ALWAYS 1 team chosing 1 map, but togewa teams chosing other stuff like how many rounds or rules for server as alowed or not spawnkill/need or not to restart map after round and etc. it's called good manners and politneszzz. Btw i like this chosen maps anyway, so for me absolutely np . The only 1 problemmm: im sure that i will not play in the match, cuz im new here so u still need agreement with main players.

ok I think there was a confusion with maps, when our manager said courthouse and foodwall it is not we choose 2 maps and you choose only one. We used to play courthouse in all wars with all clans, I dont know someone who doesnt like courthouse, that why courthouse became a stardard map. And then we chose foodwall. I just wanted to clarify this point
And btw I used to be a sneaky b*tch so dont worry about killing from window corner etc

I think we should change funwar date, because until now we didn't found agreement.